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Jul. 10th, 2008

1) My iPod appears to have died. It keeps switching itself off and on but won't connect to my computer or give me the menu screen, just the endless black and white apple screen of doom. Those of you who know me know that this is heartbreak in electronic form. I had 76GB on there of lovely, lovely stuff.

I can't be without an iPod and I gave my previous one to a friend. :::verklempt:::

2) Iran's missiles are pastede on, yay!

3) David Gray is angry that interrogators are using his music to extract information from prisoners in Iraq.
I was wondering what kind of music would make me beg for release and I think for me it would be gangsta rap. I could stand Celine Dion, for the singalong factor but if someone played me Ani Di Franco over and over I would cheerfully lose my hearing.

What would be the music that would make you crack?

4) I love this song: The Quest Bryn Christopher. It sounds like Amy Winehouse by way of David McAlmont and Motown.

5) Pop quiz, hotshots: can you think of a movie in the past five years featuring a female leading character who was not defined solely by her reproductive system or relationship to the male hero?

Poll #1221192 Oh Hollywood, I despair

A film with an interesting female protagonist is...



Cos all I've got is Pan's Labyrinth

ETA 6) BRADLEY WHITFORD AND RUPERT PENRY-JONES IN A THING ON TELLY! Burn Up It also has Neve Campbell in it, but you can't have everything. It's written by Simon Beaufoy, which may or may not be a good thing.

I also watched Bonekickers on Tuesday, which is Da Vinci Code meets Time Team meets Indiana Jones. I am not sure whether it is magnificent cack, or just cack.

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se_parsons
Jul. 10th, 2008 10:22 pm (UTC)
Music that would make me crack would be misogynistic rap and misogynistic country. There are genres of both with a streak a mile wide. I could tolerate country longer because of melody, but I find it equally hateful in content.
infinitemonkeys
Jul. 10th, 2008 11:06 pm (UTC)
At least you can hum along with the country and drown out the lyrics.
tzikeh
Jul. 10th, 2008 10:30 pm (UTC)
infinitemonkeys
Jul. 10th, 2008 11:02 pm (UTC)
Genius. Thank you. I shall be showing that to people at work tomorrow

[sorry about other comment if you got that, I was cackhanded with the reply button]
vonniek
Jul. 10th, 2008 10:38 pm (UTC)
can you think of a movie in the past five years featuring a female leading character who was not defined solely by her reproductive system or relationship to the male hero?

I can think of several but I don't know if I can recommend them all:

There is "The Queen", of course. And the one with the other Elizabeth, with Cate Blanchett. "Golden Age" or some such. I didn't watch the latter.

"Million Dollar Baby" with Hilary Swank, which dislike for its heavy-handedness, at least meets your criteria. (Except for the part where the heroine is completely bedridden and helpless in the second half of the movie.)

"La Vie en Rose", the Edith Piaf biopic for which Marianne Cotillard won the best actress Oscar this year.

"Notes on the Scandal" with Judi Dench and Cate Blanchett - again, I haven't seen it.

"Persepolis", which is animation and on my list to see, and I've been told it is AWESOME.

The one with the Indian girl and the soccer -- erm. "Bend It Like Beckham", I think. That might have been more than 5 years ago.

I guess "Atonement", if you consider Briony your main character.
spectralbovine
Jul. 10th, 2008 10:45 pm (UTC)
"Persepolis", which is animation and on my list to see, and I've been told it is AWESOME.
Yeah, that came to my mind as well, but I haven't seen it either.

"Million Dollar Baby" with Hilary Swank, which dislike for its heavy-handedness, at least meets your criteria. (Except for the part where the heroine is completely bedridden and helpless in the second half of the movie.)
Yeah, thumbs down on that one from me too.

se_parsons mentioned The Descent, which I really liked. I also threw in Kill Bill (although there is a reproductive system plot and she's referred to as "The Bride," I think she still fits the criteria) and Hard Candy. Which are both revenge stories.

I love Pan's Labyrinth.

Edited at 2008-07-10 10:48 pm (UTC)
infinitemonkeys
Jul. 10th, 2008 11:08 pm (UTC)
Thanks for that. I haven't seen The Descent, though I have heard good things and bad things. Most people agree it is scary, if nothing else.
vonniek
Jul. 10th, 2008 11:39 pm (UTC)
Everyone who's seen "Persepolis" rhapsodizes about it. It must be out on DVD now. *queues up Netflix*

I have a fairly low tolerance for gore (even though I like psychological horror -- go figure) so I didn't think I could watch The Descent. I've heard that it was very well made.
infinitemonkeys
Jul. 10th, 2008 11:05 pm (UTC)
Oh, okay. I am glad your brain works because mine is pure failure. Though I do note that of those, four are biopics of various kinds, where it would be perverse to sideline the female character. Six were made outside the Hollywood system.

I suppose I was thinking of big shiny blockbusters which are almost always about the [whiny, entitled, white] male. Have there been any of those? I can't think of any
vonniek
Jul. 10th, 2008 11:36 pm (UTC)
"Million Dollar Baby" was made within the studio system but not what I'd consider a blockbuster. Didn't it win the Best Picture Oscar though? Bah. (I mostly think of it as a glorified Lifetime channel movie with some uncommonly good acting. But oy, the anvils.)

You've got a point in the biopic front. Hmmm. Big shiny Hollywood blockbuster with a female heroine that wasn't about babies or dudes (and didn't suck)... *scratches head* There was that Nicole Kidman/Sean Penn film, "The Interpreter", which was kind of slow, but a decent flick; They were co-leads and it wasn't about romantic relationship between the two. What else... Jodie Foster in that thriller on the airplane -- "Flightplan." Well, OK, that was all about Jodie being all mama-bear about her offspring in peril, so I guess reproductive system was somewhat involved. Er, at least the offspring was a daughter? She basically did the same movie except set in a tiny room, in "Panic Room." Oh! And there is "Devil Wears Prada." That qualifies, and I think it was a pretty big hit.

Man, there aren't really that many of these in the Hollywood system.
infinitemonkeys
Jul. 10th, 2008 11:07 pm (UTC)
OH aye, and a couple of people from work have seen Persepolis and say it really is *that* good.
cofax7
Jul. 11th, 2008 01:55 am (UTC)
Persepolis is wonderful; highly recommended.

I wanted to say Pitch Black, but it's too old to meet K's criteria.
kirbyfest
Jul. 10th, 2008 10:54 pm (UTC)
Music that would kill me
"Gloria" by Laura Branigan.

I feel vaguely nauseous even typing it.
infinitemonkeys
Jul. 10th, 2008 11:05 pm (UTC)
Re: Music that would kill me
NO! You can't diss Gloria *g*
angstville
Jul. 11th, 2008 12:57 am (UTC)
Okay, after I answered Persepolis, I realized you were bemoaning Hollywood...Ummm....thinking thinking thinking...surely Meryl has done something???? heehee..
infinitemonkeys
Jul. 11th, 2008 10:26 pm (UTC)
Loads of people have answered "Persepolis" Clearly I must see this movie
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infinitemonkeys
Jul. 11th, 2008 10:27 pm (UTC)
I am, what I've seen of her. I've never seen all of Orlando though, only snippets.
corianderstem
Jul. 11th, 2008 03:47 am (UTC)
I see I'm not the only one mentioning Persepolis! I loved, loved, loved it.
infinitemonkeys
Jul. 11th, 2008 10:27 pm (UTC)
Loads of people mentioned Persepolis. I feel an idiot for not catching it while it was on in London
predictivememo
Jul. 11th, 2008 07:08 am (UTC)
'Agadoo' by Black Lace. The defense rests.

TY for alerting me to 6, I knew it was coming (but not when) and frankly BW love would be much appreciated. Anything to stop me thinking about THAT right now would be useful...

I appear to have lost my iPod :( You have my sympathies.

Oh, and Transamerica with Felicity Huffman, currently doing the rounds on Sky (I believe) I hope a woman playing a man who's about to be a woman gets into the definition...
infinitemonkeys
Jul. 11th, 2008 10:29 pm (UTC)
You're going to be thinking about THAT until you're done. Face it *g*

Was I the person you were talking about in your music post this morning. I only ask because I was embarrassed to answer if it wasn't then I felt embarrassed not to answer and oh, god, to NOT BE SO DAMNED ENGLISH.

I loved Transamerica but I want a big damned action movie with a female lead who is not a misogynists self-satisfied nightmare, and Hollywood does not want me to have one, the bastards
franthewndrhrse
Jul. 11th, 2008 07:23 pm (UTC)
Oh, I've had that iPod thing. It needed a new hard drive. Probably not what you wanted to hear.
infinitemonkeys
Jul. 11th, 2008 10:30 pm (UTC)
Definitely not what I wanted to hear. But thanks for telling me anyway *g*
gwendally
Jul. 14th, 2008 09:21 pm (UTC)
Serenity!
Zoe Washburn is married, but her husband is the side-kick, not her. Are you a Joss Whedon fan? Really, there is no better female protagonist than Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I heart Joss.
infinitemonkeys
Jul. 22nd, 2008 12:09 am (UTC)
Re: Serenity!
Hello. Yes, I like the works of Whedon in general, though the appeal of Dr Horrible has passed me by a bit. I do like his protagonists but I am a bit fed up that Whedon, who is not perfect, is seen as some kind of feminist outlier when he should be slapbang in the mainstream. Why can't the world be ordered to my whims, dammit? *g*
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