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OMFG.I cannot believe they did that. I am filled, toetip to brainpan, with glee.

If everyone could please watch Flesh and Stone right now and then talk about it, that would be marvellous.

BRB, watching Confidential, then the episode again.


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May. 1st, 2010 06:22 pm (UTC)

So funny, and scarey and mysterious.
May. 1st, 2010 06:29 pm (UTC)

I am going to write about the wonderful twistiness later, but for now I am stuck on OMFG. Both for the episode as a whole, for the fact that every bit of canon is no longer inviolate because time can be rewritten, because River is going to kill the Doctor in the finale (or think she has, BUT TIME CAN BE REWRITTEN!) and because they did the whole Eleven/Amy thing and elegantly defused it (or not).

I imagine that we're going to be able to hear the screams of the hardcore haters FROM SPACE. Awesome.
May. 1st, 2010 08:03 pm (UTC)
Rewatching, so many great lines:

'He's not some kind of madman?'
'...I absolutely trust him.'
May. 1st, 2010 08:22 pm (UTC)
Genius line, of course.
May. 2nd, 2010 07:28 pm (UTC)
every bit of canon is no longer inviolate because time can be rewritten
Oh, poor, beat-up continuity.

River is going to kill the Doctor in the finale (or think she has, BUT TIME CAN BE REWRITTEN!)

they did the whole Eleven/Amy thing and elegantly defused it (or not).
I know! Ha!
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May. 1st, 2010 06:30 pm (UTC)
And now they're spending the whole Confidential TALKING TO THE WRITERS! It's like they knew I'd had a shit week and wanted to make me happy. I've just yelled obscenities at Chibnall. So soothing.
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May. 1st, 2010 06:45 pm (UTC)
They have a good 20 minutes talking to different writers about Moff's greatest hits. Probably because they know they're about to hear the screams about the end from space. FROM SPACE.

Don't care. I LOVE YOU, MOFF.
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May. 1st, 2010 07:05 pm (UTC)
I really liked that she was just straightforward about it: I fancy you, I just nearly died, you like me, I like you, let me jump your bones. You know what, as long as the text doesn't punish her for that, I will remain in thrall to the new regime.

I'm not compiling the Daily this week because of election madness, so I shall not be reading the 'Amy Pond Is A Slag' posts from the nuttier parts of the fandom, but I intend, whenever I see them, to laugh at them for the bollocks they are.
May. 1st, 2010 07:12 pm (UTC)
There was so much that was utterly hilarious and fantastic at the end. Their relationship fairly crackles, and yet it's quite unclear what it is - paternal on his part? Hmm.

OK, I need to rewatch and I can't. Aaargh.
May. 1st, 2010 06:33 pm (UTC)
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May. 1st, 2010 06:41 pm (UTC)
OMG please spoil me. WHAT!!!
May. 1st, 2010 06:54 pm (UTC)
Okay, so first of all, the episode itself is awesome, implying all sorts of things about River and the finale and the crack in space and not answering them YET IN A GOOD WAY.

But it's the end that will cause the screaming, because in a coda of FABULOUSNESS, Amy asks to be taken home, shows him the wedding dress, the engagement ring, and then basically JUMPS HIS BONES in her bedroom.

He goes all flaily and NO! YOU ARE GETTING MARRIED.

But importantly, NOT "we won't do this because I don't fancy you" just flaily and thinky. All possible interpretations are raised, and none are quashed out of all possibility. There is now a BRONTOSAURUS in the room. ILU MOFF.

May. 1st, 2010 07:05 pm (UTC)
Thank you! Oh noes re: River.
May. 1st, 2010 07:21 pm (UTC)
"Amy, listen to me. I am 907 years old. Do you understand what that means?"
"It's been a while?"
"Ye-- No. No. No!"


Okay, I've taken a break to rewatch the last five minutes and wait for the uncontrollable urge to make dolphin noises to die down. Time to go back and watch my recording of Confidential now.

Doubtless there'll also be spontaneous cries of anguish about the fact that the date has now been pinned down without a shadow of a doubt. Interestingly, if we don't have a skip week forced upon us by Eurovision or something similar, 26 June 2010 will be the date that episode #13 airs. :-)
May. 1st, 2010 07:29 pm (UTC)
I think that because they're forcing Doctor Who to go earlier (so that Over The Rainbow is not crushed by the X-Factor juggernaut), and therefore slides in before Eurovision starts, we have a straight run this year.

I am loving this season so hard. The fact that it will piss off a section of the fandom that was pretty foul to some decent people when its narrative was in the ascendancy is just the gloopy, mean-spirited custard on the delicious pie of my fandom glee.
May. 4th, 2010 03:52 am (UTC)
The fact that it will piss off a section of the fandom that was pretty foul to some decent people when its narrative was in the ascendancy is just the gloopy, mean-spirited custard on the delicious pie of my fandom glee.

I love your evenhandedness. *g*

May. 1st, 2010 07:35 pm (UTC)
I absolutely loved that episode. Even the Demoness, Duchess of Hades, First Lady of the Inferno, Empress of the Nine Rings, Queen of Hell (my mum) was sufficiently impressed that she kept quiet all the way through, which, let me tell you, is utterly unprecedented (she talks all the way through everything, ever).

There was so much to love in this episode, not least because there was so much room for the audience to interact with it. An open episode! Full of cleverness and sleight of hand and controlled detonations of creativity! All of canon is fair game now, and Moff's even managed to reconcile some of the stupid without breaking a sweat!

I'm sitting here theorising now, and I love it. The Pandoric, my god, it has to be Pandora's Box, and all the stuff that the Time Lords sealed away breaking loose now that they're no longer there to keep it closed.

I love Amy, and I adore River, and oh! Doctor. Yes. Amy at the end was brilliant. Must go and rewatch!

Is the Confidential worth watching? I never usually bother (I hate breaking the Fourth Wall) but I'm willing to make an exception I think.
May. 1st, 2010 07:44 pm (UTC)
Normally, I watch the Confidential in a half-arsed way because it gets to about Thursday and nothing's on the TV and I am too knackered to do anything but veg out and watch iPlayer. This one, though, had about 25 minutes of writers talking about why Moffat's stories work and I loved that. Matt and Karen were also very cute talking about the end. The rest was the usual tedious shite about wirework. So definitely worth a look but not as fantastic as it promised to be at first.

Wasn't the episode amazing though? I love the way it makes absolutely anything possible now, and if I were a kid I would've absolutely loved all the time stuff and the gravity shenanigans. And the crack UNWRITES people. How scary is that?

God, I need to make icons. It's wrong not to have an Eleven and Amy icon

May. 1st, 2010 09:18 pm (UTC)
How good was that? SERIOUSLY. I am just head over heels in love with River Song, and what she said at the end there, it really can only mean one thing, can't it?

The last bit with Eleven & Amy was brilliant. I love that they went there, yet did it in such a way that it's entirely open to interpretation. I am just delighted that Amy gets to be sexually forward in such a fun way.

Moffat writes in a style that my brain likes. A lot.
May. 1st, 2010 09:18 pm (UTC)
I am SO EXCITED to watch this.

(It will have to wait, though, because tonight: ROLLER DERBY.)
May. 1st, 2010 09:31 pm (UTC)
OMG!!! ::flail::

I missed a lot, I know -- When he's on a roll, Eleven talks even faster than Ten, which I didn't think was possible. But WOW. I loved the hugeness of it all. And the stakes felt real to me, which they haven't on this show for quite a while.

The openness of Amy just launching herself at the Doctor was a breath of fresh air, frankly. That's what I'd do! Fuck subtext, fuck pussyfooting around. Want, take, have.
May. 1st, 2010 09:45 pm (UTC)
Duck pond! I instantly thought of you.

The whole thing was amazing, and Amy & Karen Gillan are both so fantastic. Matt Smith brings so much intelligence to his incarnation of the Doctor, it's like I can see the wheels turning in his eyes. And I love the layers that were added to River Song here -- not just backstory hints, but making her more three-dimensional as a character.

Rewatch now, or Confidential first? Decisions, decisions....
May. 2nd, 2010 11:26 am (UTC)
Oh wait wait wait, I just came across THIS THREAD http://community.livejournal.com/doctorwho/5964332.html?thread=87648044#t87648044 which highlights a fascinating continuity error (or NOT), which in turn links back to some far earlier issues, which all reminds me of Prisoner of Azkaban.

May. 2nd, 2010 02:23 pm (UTC)
I read that before I left for work this morning. I checked on TEH. The shadow that I assumed was Prisoner Zero? Freezeframe it and just before the shadow disappears from view, you get an outline which really looks a lot like the jacket.

Lord if this pays off, I shall be so chuffed
May. 2nd, 2010 07:36 pm (UTC)
Duuuuude, this is crazy shit. I LOVE TIME TRAVEL MAYHEM.
May. 2nd, 2010 07:26 pm (UTC)
How is a duck pond a duck pond if there aren't any ducks?

So the ducks must have been eaten by the time energy?? Time can be rewritten? Amy Pond is the single most important person in the universe since Donna Noble? And suddenly the Doctor has issues with Time Lord-human relations?

I don't like how the Weeping Angels were practically rewritten entirely from "Blink," but I suppose it worked for the episodes.
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